कृपया संसद में तुरंत बिल प्रस्तुत करें कि चुनावी यंत्र तुरंत बैन किया जाये और मतदान पत्र लाया जाये

आदरणीय राओ इन्दरजीत सिंह जी,

आप मेरे संसद क्षेत्र, गुडगाँव के सांसाद हैं |

चुनावी यंत्र कई विकसित देशों में बैन हैं क्यूंकि चुनावी यंत्र में छेड़-छाड बड़े स्तर पर आसान है, मतदान पत्र के तुलना में | मैं  चिंतित हूँ कि चुनावी यंत्र के प्रयोग द्वारा लोकतंत्र की हत्या की जा रही है | कागज की रसीद के साथ भी ये मशीनों द्वारा वोटिंग सुरक्षित नहीं हैं | मतदान पत्र सबसे सस्ता और अच्छा विकल्प है चुनाव के लिए |

कृपया http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AuJHih4fxYQ पर एक वीडियो प्रदर्शन देखें जो दिखलाता है कि इवीएम मशीनों में हेराफेरी/गड़बड़ी करना कागजी मतदान पत्रों से कहीं ज्‍यादा आसान है और इन गड़बड़ियों का पता भी नहीं लगाया जा सकता ।

कृपया ये लेख भी देखें - http://www.indianevm.com/book_democracy_at_risk_2010.pdf

आपके पार्टी के वरिष्ट संसद, श्री अडवानी जी ने भी इसपर घोर आपत्ति उठाई थी |

कृपया संसद में तुरंत चुनाव यंत्र रद्द करने और मतदान पत्र लाने के लिए प्रस्ताव पेश करें वरना आपको / आपकी पार्टी को वोट नहीं देंगे |

कृपया 3 दिन के अंदर जवाब दें और समय-सीमा बताएं कि कब आप संसद में चुनावी यंत्र को बैन करने के लिए बिल प्रस्तुत करेंगे, ताकि मैं अपने साथी नागरिकों को सूचना दे सकूँ | जब आप संसद में ऐसा बिल रखेंगे, तो कृपया अपने वेबसाइट या अपनी पार्टी की वेबसाइट पर वो बिल रखें और उसका लिंक भी दें | 

धन्यवाद |

क्मोक्षा

Please present a bill in parliament to immediately ban EVMs and bring back EVMs

Dear BHAGWANT MANN, 

I am a citizen of India.

I am concerned about the murder of democracy in India through the use of EVMs which are banned in all developed countries. Even with a paper trail, these machines are not safe. Paper ballot is the cheapest and the best option. 

Please see a video demonstration that shows that rigging EVMs in untraceable way is easier that paper ballots at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZlCOj1dElDY 

Also, see this article - http://www.indianevm.com/book_democracy_at_risk_2010.pdf

So, please immediately present bill in parliament to ban EVM and bring back ballot paper Or else will not vote for you / your party.

Please respond within 3 days and tell the time frame when you will present the bill in parliament, so that I can inform the same to my fellow citizens. When you do present the bill in parliament, also put the same on your website or website of your party and give the link.

Thanking you, 

Kmoksha

Please present a bill in parliament to immediately ban EVMs and bring back EVMs

Dear PROF. SADHU SINGH, 

You are MP of gurgaon, my constituency.

I am concerned about the murder of democracy in India through the use of EVMs which are banned in all developed countries. Even with a paper trail, these machines are not safe. Paper ballot is the cheapest and the best option. 

Please see a video demonstration that shows that rigging EVMs in untraceable way is easier that paper ballots at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZlCOj1dElDY 

Also, see this article - http://www.indianevm.com/book_democracy_at_risk_2010.pdf

So, please immediately present bill in parliament to ban EVM and bring back ballot paper Or else will not vote for you / your party.

Please respond within 3 days and tell the time frame when you will present the bill in parliament, so that I can inform the same to my fellow citizens. When you do present the bill in parliament, also put the same on your website or website of your party and give the link.

Thanking you, 

Kmoksha

Please present a bill in parliament to immediately ban EVMs and bring back EVMs

Dear HARINDER SINGH KHALSA,

I am concerned about the murder of democracy in India through the use of EVMs which are banned in all developed countries. Even with a paper trail, these machines are not safe. Paper ballot is the cheapest and the best option. 

Please see a video demonstration that shows that rigging EVMs in untraceable way is easier that paper ballots at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZlCOj1dElDY 

Also, see this article - http://www.indianevm.com/book_democracy_at_risk_2010.pdf

So, please immediately present bill in parliament to ban EVM and bring back ballot paper Or else will not vote for you / your party.

Lot of AAP party activists are demanding the ban of EVM and bringing in paper ballot.

Please respond within 3 days and tell the time frame when you will present the bill in parliament, so that I can inform the same to my fellow citizens. When you do present the bill in parliament, also put the same on your website or website of your party and give the link.

Thanking you,

Kmoksha

Please present a bill in parliament to immediately ban EVMs and bring back EVMs

Dear DR.DHARAM VIRA GANDHI ,

I am concerned about the murder of democracy in India through the use of EVMs which are banned in all developed countries. Even with a paper trail, these machines are not safe. Paper ballot is the cheapest and the best option. 

Please see a video demonstration that shows that rigging EVMs in untraceable way is easier that paper ballots at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZlCOj1dElDY 

Also, see this article - http://www.indianevm.com/book_democracy_at_risk_2010.pdf

So, please immediately present bill in parliament to ban EVM and bring back ballot paper Or else will not vote for you / your party.

Lot of AAP party activists are demanding the ban of EVM and bringing in paper ballot.

Please respond within 3 days and tell the time frame when you will present the bill in parliament, so that I can inform the same to my fellow citizens. When you do present the bill in parliament, also put the same on your website or website of your party and give the link.

Thanking you, 

kmoksha

Re: EVM solution

Dear all

I promote ms Meena 's letter . Please do the needful immediately

Vande Mataram

Shiva Thippaiah
Bharatheey.


> On 19 Jun 2014, at 11:28, Meena Maillart <meenamai@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I am concerned about the murder of democracy in India through the use of EVMs which are banned in all developed countries. Even with a paper trail, these machines are not safe. Paper ballot is the cheapest and the best option.
> AAP must put up 65 to 70 candidates per EVM machine in the coming assembly elections. The EVM can do the counting for only 64 candidates. As soon as there are more than 64 candidates, the machine has to be discarded and paper ballot ordered. This strategy has been successfully used in Telangana in 2010.
> It is not important whether AAP wins or loses. But it is important to hold fair election without EVMs.
>
> I am attaching a short text of one page to show you how dangerous the EVMs are. Among the important links in this text, there is a book by GVL Narsimha Rao, which all indians must read to understand that the Election Commission of India is involved in the EVM scam.
>
> If AAP cannot put 70 candidates per machine, they must tell me why. In the absence of any convincing answer my motivation to work for the party will be negatively affected.
>
> Thanks for paying attention.
>
> meena maillart-garg
> <EVM...The murder of democracy.docx>

EVM solution

I am concerned about the murder of democracy in India through the use of EVMs which are banned in all developed countries. Even with a paper trail, these machines are not safe. Paper ballot is the cheapest and the best option.

AAP must put up 65 to 70 candidates per EVM machine in the coming assembly elections. The EVM can do the counting for only 64 candidates. As soon as there are more than 64 candidates, the machine has to be discarded and paper ballot ordered. This strategy has been successfully used in Telangana in 2010.

It is not important whether AAP wins or loses. But it is important to hold fair election without EVMs.

I am attaching a short text of one page to show you how dangerous the EVMs are. Among the important links in this text, there is a book by GVL Narsimha Rao, which all indians must read to understand that the Election Commission of India is involved in the EVM scam.

If AAP cannot put 70 candidates per machine, they must tell me why. In the absence of any convincing answer my motivation to work for the party will be negatively affected.

Thanks for paying attention.

meena maillart-garg

GMOs and testing of all foods in Delhi state should be banned

On behalf of Dr. Krishan Bir Chaudhary and Arun Shrivastava

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Mr. Prashant Bhushan,

Senior advocate, Supreme Court of India

Aam Aadmi Party, 
Ground Floor, 
A-119, Kaushambi, 
Ghaziabad - 201010

 

Subject: GMOs and testing of all foods in Delhi state

Emailed letter

 

Dear Prashant ji,

 

You have been the counsel in matter of a Public Interest Litigation [PIL] number 260 of 2005 and, as such we, the undersigned, assume that you are fully aware of the dangers of Genetically Modified [GMO] seeds and foods.

 

In this matter you are on record with your arguments in the Supreme Court. We quote one that you made to the media: "We had argued that the field trials and commercial release of GM crops, particularly, Bt brinjal should not be done unless and until proper regulations for ensuring safety aspects are put in place." http://www.financialexpress.com/news/sc-asks-govt-to-respond-to-safety-conerns-of-gmos/453457/0

 

We draw your attention to the report of the all-party Standing Committee in Parliament that unequivocally recommended to the Government that Genetically Engineered seeds and foods be banned in India. As early as 2001, all samples of food made from soy and corn from Delhi market sent to an accredited laboratory for testing of GM contamination tested positive. Food experts have identified many food products including baby food that are known to be GM contaminated. These well known brands are being sold openly in super stores and neighbourhood grocers without labelling.

 

Are your party and you not concerned with public health and the health of infants, growing children, women and the elderly and farmers rights to seeds? Please consider the following issues which have already been discussed and debated in the Honourable Supreme Court and the Parliament:

(a) Ban all GM seeds and foods in Delhi state,

(b) Establish a testing laboratory in Delhi to test every food being sold in the state, and

(c) Institute severe penalty for offenders for selling poisoned foods that kill.

 

Kerala, Sikkim, Uttarakhand, and Northeastern states have already banned GMOs. We expect you to kindly expedite the process within a week as part of the newly elected government.

 

Kind regards

 

1. Dr. Krishan Bir Chaudhary, President-Bharatiya Krishak Samaj Mobile: 98103 31366, 78389 77677 Email: bharatiyakrishaksamaj@gmail.com	2. Arun Shrivastava MBIM, CMC Accredited Management Consultant Mobile: 98999 55021 Email: arun1951@gmail.com
[Signatories to the Impleadment in support of the cited PIL in the Supreme Court of India]

 

Copy to:

1. Mr. A. Kejriwal, Chief Minister, Delhi state [cmdelhi@nic.in]

2. Aam Aadmi Party HQ, Ground Floor, A-119, Kaushambi, Ghaziabad – 201010

[contact@aamaadmiparty.org]

 

Re: as per phone conversation

Dear sowmya 

Did the AAP legal team responded?  

Please respond

Shiva

Sent from Galaxy S3 on Three

-------- Original message --------
From: mail2shiva123 <mail2shiva123@gmail.com>
Date:
To: mail2shiva123@gmail.com,maamidisowmyaa@gmail.com
Cc: righttorecall.rtr@gmail.com
Subject: Re: as per phone conversation

Dear sowmya

It is been 55 days since I sent forwarded message.  For your opinion and AAP legal teams opinion. 

As I can remind you,  you told you are busy to look into any suggestion. And you required 30 days. 

I know you may still be busy.  But please try to look at the messages and give your personal as well as legal teams opinion on our concepts and demand from arvind. 

Vande mataram

Shiva 

-------- Original message --------
From: Shiva Thippaiah <mail2shiva123@gmail.com>
Date:
To: maamidisowmyaa <maamidisowmyaa@gmail.com>
Cc: Right to Recall Mails <righttorecall.rtr@gmail.com>
Subject: as per phone conversation

dear  sowmya 

link to mail  we sent to arvind http://righttorecallmails.blogspot.co.uk/search/label/Arvind%20Kejriwal

the law we discussed on phone 

www.righttorecall.info/001el.pdf 

you tube videos of the law and explanation for you to grasp the core quickly

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OZKwL6wI9uc&feature=share&list=PL4B1A324F3ED866E2

please see evidence of me distributing pamplets and request you to do the same. it takes only 1/2 hour per week.

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jlZpgCF_w1Y

 

http://youtu.be/bOiSk5A5ArA?t=4m38s

as you promised - i will wait for a month to get your opinion and legal teams opinion in 40 days. 

also note that this email is also publicly dispalyed in http://righttorecallmails.blogspot.com . i request you to ackowledge the reception of email as well. also cc your response and acknolwledgement to righttorecall.rtr@gmail.com

vande matharam 

shiva

Re: as per phone conversation

Dear sowmya

It is been 55 days since I sent forwarded message.  For your opinion and AAP legal teams opinion. 

As I can remind you,  you told you are busy to look into any suggestion. And you required 30 days. 

I know you may still be busy.  But please try to look at the messages and give your personal as well as legal teams opinion on our concepts and demand from arvind. 

Vande mataram

Shiva 

-------- Original message --------
From: Shiva Thippaiah <mail2shiva123@gmail.com>
Date:
To: maamidisowmyaa <maamidisowmyaa@gmail.com>
Cc: Right to Recall Mails <righttorecall.rtr@gmail.com>
Subject: as per phone conversation

dear  sowmya 

link to mail  we sent to arvind http://righttorecallmails.blogspot.co.uk/search/label/Arvind%20Kejriwal

the law we discussed on phone 

www.righttorecall.info/001el.pdf 

you tube videos of the law and explanation for you to grasp the core quickly

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OZKwL6wI9uc&feature=share&list=PL4B1A324F3ED866E2

please see evidence of me distributing pamplets and request you to do the same. it takes only 1/2 hour per week.

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jlZpgCF_w1Y

 

http://youtu.be/bOiSk5A5ArA?t=4m38s

as you promised - i will wait for a month to get your opinion and legal teams opinion in 40 days. 

also note that this email is also publicly dispalyed in http://righttorecallmails.blogspot.com . i request you to ackowledge the reception of email as well. also cc your response and acknolwledgement to righttorecall.rtr@gmail.com

vande matharam 

shiva

Re: Resent Omkar Dabhadkar s letter demanding quick prompt response

Dear vaibhav .

I second omkars opinion.  Please answer asap

Shiva 

Activist

Sent from Galaxy S3 on Three

-------- Original message --------
From: Omkar Dabhadkar <d.omkar1@gmail.com>
Date:
To: Vyavastha Parivartan <contact@aamaadmiparty.org>
Cc: AAP Karnataka <aap.karnataka@gmail.com>,righttorecall.rtr@gmail.com,mail2shiva123 <mail2shiva123@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Resent Omkar Dabhadkar s letter demanding quick prompt response

Dear Vaibhav,

It has been more than one and half month since my first email - and - one month since my last email. I haven't heard anything from you. Please let me know exactly what is the issue here - so that I can help solving it.

Please understand that these are the issues of all young patriotic activists. Please answer all the questions and do let me know how I can help in this process.

Regards,

Omkar Dabhadkar

On Wed, Jul 3, 2013 at 4:35 PM, Omkar Dabhadkar <d.omkar1@gmail.com> wrote:

Dear Vaibhav,

It has been 13 days since your reply. Any progress on above requests? Is there any reason why AAP apex is taking so much time in deciding about such crucial issues?

Also, about the suggestion with respect to Preferential Voting - Can you please clearly express your opinion - Is it a good idea or a bad one?

I can see that you believe that BJP too is bad. And that's perfectly fine. But does that mean AAP should not think about Preferential Voting at all? Do you deny the possibility of division of votes?

Please understand that, today people vote for BJP - NOT BECAUSE THEY LIKE BJP, but because they want Congress to keep out of power. Same is the case with Congress voters. I ASSURE YOU - all these voters, if given a chance of preferential voting, will either give AAP as first preference or second at the worst. This will benefit India both ways - it'll bring positive changes in election procedure as well as it'll help us win AAP.

Kindly let me know if I can help in convincing AAP seniors about both the suggestions/requests.

Please close this as soon as possible - we are running out of time.

Vande Mataram.

Regards,

 

Omkar Dabhadkar

On Thu, Jun 20, 2013 at 1:25 PM, Vyavastha Parivartan <contact@aamaadmiparty.org> wrote:

Dear Omkar,

Thanks for your mail, I shall try to answer you pointwise.

1: We would like to tell you that we have setup an expert committees on every important issues  click here to see the details of the committees, It includes our policy on on "Decentralisation through Swaraj", these people are working hard to come up with initial draft of our policy, once they come up with the draft,we will put it in public domain for more input from awaken people like you. Then we can finalize our stand on any issue. We would be forwarding your very good observation/ideas/inputs to this team & the soul of your idea would be considered actively.

2: We agree that people are fed up with congress however do you really thing BJP is the solution for it, Imagine if Mr. Narendra Modi makes the government then how he is going to fight corruption, he has stalled appointment of Lokayukta in his state since last 9 years & now he has passed a lame-duck lokayukta who will be of no purpose.

We shall forward your idea to our one more team discussing Electoral Reforms to take a note of it.

We thank you again for sending very good observations & inputs, keep writings us & keep supporting.

Regards

Vaibhav

Team AAP

Connect with us on Social Network:
AAP National Page :- www.facebook.com/AamAadmiParty
AAP website - http://aamaadmiparty.org/
AAP twitter - https://twitter.com/@aamaadmiparty
Party Help Line number: 09718500606 (9 A.M. to 9 P.M. - 7 days a week

On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 5:15 PM, Omkar Dabhadkar <d.omkar1@gmail.com> wrote:

Dear Sir, without any articulated formalities and greetings and salutations, I will come straight to the point and save your time.

This letter is regarding 2 major concerns - and - my suggestions on those concerns.

---

1) You have promised us a corruption free governance and implementation of Swaraaj. To achieve this, you have proposed 'Complete decentralization of Power'. You want the people of villages to decide what infrastructure they need. They will convey it to the center through intermediate channels and that's how The Budget will be carved.

We all LOVE this idea.

My concern is about the implementation of this idea. How are we going to achieve this? We already have Sthaanik Swaraajya Sansthaas - but they have a lot of flaws. A few people tend to become dominating, they suppress other voices, establish strong contacts with MPs/MLAs and then they become the dominating forces in those villages/cities/constituencies.

After you win with a thumping majority (which I really wish you do - either BJP or AAP - I do not want Congress again!) and after you create Swaraaj - how to make sure that the voices of those who do not have any such contacts - The AAM AADMIs' voices - reach towards - 1) The Authorities and 2) Other AAM AADMIs?

You see - reaching the voice to authorities is less important than reaching the voice to other AAM AADMIs. If the later happens - the former automatically gets achieved. I can't see any idea/proposal by AAP to achieve this.

I came across a proposed Gazette Notification called "Janataa Ki Awaaz" which achieves this in a flawless way.

It's a simple 3 line proposal - goes like this -

• If any citizen voter wants, then by visiting Collector's office, he/she can put his Complaint/Suggestion/Demand etc on PM's website/CM's website/any other official portal for Rs 20 fee after verifying his/her identity. Collector will give the receipt about the same to the voter.

 

• If any citizen voter supports a particular Complaint/Suggestion/Demand etc, then by visiting Talati's (Lekhpal, Patwari etc) office, he can register his support (YES) over the Complaint/Suggestion/Demand etc on PM's website/CM's website/any other portal for Rs 3/- fee after verifying the identity. Collector will give the receipt about the same to the voter.

 

• Any citizen voter can change his YES/NO any day by visiting Talati's office and paying Rs 3 for the same.

 

{• The YES/NO count is not a binding on PM, CM etc.}

This system can be implemented on 3 levels - District, State and Nation. So problems/suggestions/demands related to a particular district will not clutter with those of State and similarly with those of Nation.

This is a very strong way to bring Participatory Democracy - Swaraaj - in India.

A brief analysis of this proposal is here - 

https://www.facebook.com/notes/omkar-dabhadkar/participatory-democracy-importance-and-a-fool-proof-way-to-achieve-it/607164119303128

Please let me know your thoughts about this.

---

2) You are going to contest 2014 Parliament elections. Unfortunately, the existing election mechanism results in division of votes. As you very well know that today's India wants anything but Congress in Central power. I am very sure that you understand that AAP - unintentionally - is going to divide some % of BJP votes. YES - BJP/NDA is ALSO corrupt. They appear less corrupt because they got less chance to. But TODAY - they are much much better than Congress/UPA. Also, the rise of Narendra Modi ji has brought new ray of hope and so many youngsters are supporting BJP/NDA.

AAP is going to bring a lot of new voters. I can see many young voters enthusiastic about election and voting because of AAP. Also, AAP is, for sure going steal some Congress votes. But - sir - Modi ji is also attracting voters in a very similar fashion. You like it or not - this is a fact. And thus - division of votes is inevitable.

I, as an Indian, is very much worried about this. And so - I request you to request election commission to implement Preferential Voting System. This will give us voters a chance to give preferences of our choices - hence eliminating division of votes.

I am requesting the same to BJP activists too - on various platforms. We need anything but division of votes at this crucial election.

Kindly let me know your thoughts about this too.

---

Vande Mataram !

A worried Indian,

Omkar Dabhadkar

Re: Resent Omkar Dabhadkar s letter demanding quick prompt response

Dear Vaibhav,

It has been more than one and half month since my first email - and - one month since my last email. I haven't heard anything from you. Please let me know exactly what is the issue here - so that I can help solving it.

Please understand that these are the issues of all young patriotic activists. Please answer all the questions and do let me know how I can help in this process.

Regards,

Omkar Dabhadkar

On Wed, Jul 3, 2013 at 4:35 PM, Omkar Dabhadkar <d.omkar1@gmail.com> wrote:

Dear Vaibhav,

It has been 13 days since your reply. Any progress on above requests? Is there any reason why AAP apex is taking so much time in deciding about such crucial issues?

Also, about the suggestion with respect to Preferential Voting - Can you please clearly express your opinion - Is it a good idea or a bad one?

I can see that you believe that BJP too is bad. And that's perfectly fine. But does that mean AAP should not think about Preferential Voting at all? Do you deny the possibility of division of votes?

Please understand that, today people vote for BJP - NOT BECAUSE THEY LIKE BJP, but because they want Congress to keep out of power. Same is the case with Congress voters. I ASSURE YOU - all these voters, if given a chance of preferential voting, will either give AAP as first preference or second at the worst. This will benefit India both ways - it'll bring positive changes in election procedure as well as it'll help us win AAP.

Kindly let me know if I can help in convincing AAP seniors about both the suggestions/requests.

Please close this as soon as possible - we are running out of time.

Vande Mataram.

Regards,

 

Omkar Dabhadkar

On Thu, Jun 20, 2013 at 1:25 PM, Vyavastha Parivartan <contact@aamaadmiparty.org> wrote:

Dear Omkar,

Thanks for your mail, I shall try to answer you pointwise.

1: We would like to tell you that we have setup an expert committees on every important issues  click here to see the details of the committees, It includes our policy on on "Decentralisation through Swaraj", these people are working hard to come up with initial draft of our policy, once they come up with the draft,we will put it in public domain for more input from awaken people like you. Then we can finalize our stand on any issue. We would be forwarding your very good observation/ideas/inputs to this team & the soul of your idea would be considered actively.

2: We agree that people are fed up with congress however do you really thing BJP is the solution for it, Imagine if Mr. Narendra Modi makes the government then how he is going to fight corruption, he has stalled appointment of Lokayukta in his state since last 9 years & now he has passed a lame-duck lokayukta who will be of no purpose.

We shall forward your idea to our one more team discussing Electoral Reforms to take a note of it.

We thank you again for sending very good observations & inputs, keep writings us & keep supporting.

Regards

Vaibhav

Team AAP

Connect with us on Social Network:
AAP National Page :- www.facebook.com/AamAadmiParty
AAP website - http://aamaadmiparty.org/
AAP twitter - https://twitter.com/@aamaadmiparty
Party Help Line number: 09718500606 (9 A.M. to 9 P.M. - 7 days a week

On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 5:15 PM, Omkar Dabhadkar <d.omkar1@gmail.com> wrote:

Dear Sir, without any articulated formalities and greetings and salutations, I will come straight to the point and save your time.

This letter is regarding 2 major concerns - and - my suggestions on those concerns.

---

1) You have promised us a corruption free governance and implementation of Swaraaj. To achieve this, you have proposed 'Complete decentralization of Power'. You want the people of villages to decide what infrastructure they need. They will convey it to the center through intermediate channels and that's how The Budget will be carved.

We all LOVE this idea.

My concern is about the implementation of this idea. How are we going to achieve this? We already have Sthaanik Swaraajya Sansthaas - but they have a lot of flaws. A few people tend to become dominating, they suppress other voices, establish strong contacts with MPs/MLAs and then they become the dominating forces in those villages/cities/constituencies.

After you win with a thumping majority (which I really wish you do - either BJP or AAP - I do not want Congress again!) and after you create Swaraaj - how to make sure that the voices of those who do not have any such contacts - The AAM AADMIs' voices - reach towards - 1) The Authorities and 2) Other AAM AADMIs?

You see - reaching the voice to authorities is less important than reaching the voice to other AAM AADMIs. If the later happens - the former automatically gets achieved. I can't see any idea/proposal by AAP to achieve this.

I came across a proposed Gazette Notification called "Janataa Ki Awaaz" which achieves this in a flawless way.

It's a simple 3 line proposal - goes like this -

• If any citizen voter wants, then by visiting Collector's office, he/she can put his Complaint/Suggestion/Demand etc on PM's website/CM's website/any other official portal for Rs 20 fee after verifying his/her identity. Collector will give the receipt about the same to the voter.

 

• If any citizen voter supports a particular Complaint/Suggestion/Demand etc, then by visiting Talati's (Lekhpal, Patwari etc) office, he can register his support (YES) over the Complaint/Suggestion/Demand etc on PM's website/CM's website/any other portal for Rs 3/- fee after verifying the identity. Collector will give the receipt about the same to the voter.

 

• Any citizen voter can change his YES/NO any day by visiting Talati's office and paying Rs 3 for the same.

 

{• The YES/NO count is not a binding on PM, CM etc.}

This system can be implemented on 3 levels - District, State and Nation. So problems/suggestions/demands related to a particular district will not clutter with those of State and similarly with those of Nation.

This is a very strong way to bring Participatory Democracy - Swaraaj - in India.

A brief analysis of this proposal is here - 

https://www.facebook.com/notes/omkar-dabhadkar/participatory-democracy-importance-and-a-fool-proof-way-to-achieve-it/607164119303128

Please let me know your thoughts about this.

---

2) You are going to contest 2014 Parliament elections. Unfortunately, the existing election mechanism results in division of votes. As you very well know that today's India wants anything but Congress in Central power. I am very sure that you understand that AAP - unintentionally - is going to divide some % of BJP votes. YES - BJP/NDA is ALSO corrupt. They appear less corrupt because they got less chance to. But TODAY - they are much much better than Congress/UPA. Also, the rise of Narendra Modi ji has brought new ray of hope and so many youngsters are supporting BJP/NDA.

AAP is going to bring a lot of new voters. I can see many young voters enthusiastic about election and voting because of AAP. Also, AAP is, for sure going steal some Congress votes. But - sir - Modi ji is also attracting voters in a very similar fashion. You like it or not - this is a fact. And thus - division of votes is inevitable.

I, as an Indian, is very much worried about this. And so - I request you to request election commission to implement Preferential Voting System. This will give us voters a chance to give preferences of our choices - hence eliminating division of votes.

I am requesting the same to BJP activists too - on various platforms. We need anything but division of votes at this crucial election.

Kindly let me know your thoughts about this too.

---

Vande Mataram !

A worried Indian,

Omkar Dabhadkar

Re: I wish to know decision making process followed by AAP.

I completely agree with Vineet Arora. 

I have similar experience in last 2 years of trying to contact iac aap  anna and team's response to democratic demands. 

-shiva thippaiah

-------- Original message --------
From: Vineet Arora <vineet.aro.bgl@gmail.com>
Date:
To: Contact AAP <contact@aamaadmiparty.org>
Cc: Mohit Prem Pundir <mohitprempundir@gmail.com>,Anil Kori <anilkoriiitd@gmail.com>,Bipul Dey <bipul.dey@gmail.com>,righttorecall.rtr@gmail.com,atuldubey89@gmail.com
Subject: Re: I wish to know decision making process followed by AAP.

Dear Decision Makers at AAP,

I would like to share my strong discontent with AAP. For past 6 months or more I am constantly following AAP on web pages, blogs, AAP people, their central contactable number etc. I have forwarded a number of suggestion for AAP to adopt democratic principles, measures most of those are shared in trailing emails. My belief in AAP got terribly shaken when I didn't founding any reply to any of the suggestions till yet other than `these are forwarded to the team`. I see all the decision making power is vested in a very very few selected hands where volunteers the main ground level workers have the only job to spread good word about AAP and nothing else non of their suggestions are taken seriously.

Except the name it doesn't seems anything else relates to Aam Aadmi or a common man in your authoritarian centralized set up.

Please let me know if my anguish, discontent isn't correct.

As I have already lost faith in decision makers of AAP, I wont be pushing them any further to take up democratic procedures.

In case you people feel otherwise and have any update on any of my suggestions feel free to call back, email, contact in any possible way. I assure you I would be most willing to hear from you but wont approach your party for updates.

Hoping one day you people realize the value of democratic principles.

Vineet Arora.

On Sun, Jun 9, 2013 at 1:10 PM, Vineet Arora <vineet.aro.bgl@gmail.com> wrote:

Dear/Sir Madam

A gentle reminder.

Kindly update.

Warm Regards

On Sat, Jun 8, 2013 at 11:56 AM, Vineet Arora <vineet.aro.bgl@gmail.com> wrote:

Dear/Sir Madam

A gentle reminder.

Kindly update.

Warm Regards

Vineet Arora.

On Thu, Jun 6, 2013 at 10:36 PM, Vineet Arora <vineet.aro.bgl@gmail.com> wrote:

Dear Sir / Madam

I hope everything is going good with you people. 

I called Bipul Ji to discuss on this but came to know of a tragedy in her family that some of his relatives got a heart stroke recently and had to be hospitalized.

I feel really bad and am very sorry to disturb Bipul Ji in such an hour of grief.

I hope the concerned person gets well very soon.

1) Just checking if the task of 'Gathering all the documented suggestions that have come up to AAP from general public ' can taken over by someone else or even I can come to office with some of my collegues to gather the information. Just don't wish to bother Bipul Ji for anything now. In case it can only be done by Bipul Ji I would request him to  do it whenever appropriate taking his family commitments on priority.

Just request you to update me in any of the cases.

2) There are other suggestions that I have sent to AAP which are there in preceeding emails. Thanks for forwarding those to the concerned people I would like to know the status of the same, 

a) Have those been discarded outrightly 

b) Fully accepted

c) Partially accepted, in that case what all is accepted

d) Still pending discussion, in that case when could I expect any update.

e) Any other relevant information that could be shared.

3) Apart from the above I would like to know if there is anything that I could do to help Bipul Ji during such an hour of difficulty. Kindly do let me know I would be more than willing to help one of our brother in need, based on my capacity and abality.

Warm Regards

Vineet Arora.

On Sun, Jun 2, 2013 at 1:45 AM, Vineet Arora <vineet.aro.bgl@gmail.com> wrote:

Thanks you I will get in touch with him.

On Sat, Jun 1, 2013 at 10:32 PM, Contact AAP <contact@aamaadmiparty.org> wrote:

Hi Vineet Ji,

Please call Mr. Bipul on 09350103687 between 10 to 6 PM to discuss the issue.

Warm Regards
Vaibhav
Team AAP

On May 31, 2013 11:09 AM, "Vineet Arora" <vineet.aro.bgl@gmail.com> wrote:

I would like to thank you for your timely response. Kindly forward me Bipul Jis contact number so that we could coordinate and find timings that would suite booth of us.


Warm Regards
Vineet.

On Wednesday, May 29, 2013, Contact AAP <contact@aamaadmiparty.org> wrote:
> Dear Vineet,
>
> Please come to office & discuss all this to Mr. Bipul Dey.
>
> Warm Regards
> Vaibhav
> Team AAP
>
> Connect with us on Social Network:
> AAP National Page :- www.facebook.com/AamAadmiParty
> AAP website - http://aamaadmiparty.org/
> AAP twitter - https://twitter.com/@aamaadmiparty
> Party Help Line number: 09718500606 (9 A.M. to 9 P.M. - 7 days a week)
>
>
> On Wed, May 29, 2013 at 12:45 AM, Vineet Arora <vineet.aro.bgl@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Dear Sir/Madam
>>
>> Thanks for forwarding my suggestions/emails to concerned people/department.
>> I would like to have/know all the documented suggestions that have come up
>> to AAP from general public. If they are via post/email/inland or any other
>> means.
>>
>> If emails please forward, If inland letters etc I can come to your office
>> and collect the print-out/ photostat paying appropriate cost. Any other
>> suggestion from your side where you could provide me that info are most
>> welcome.
>>
>> I would like to collate all these documents/proofs for future reference as a
>> process of building/strengthening a democracy, probably would get these
>> published in form of a book.
>>
>> I hope you would find this quite valid in implementing complete
>> transparency. Would request you to upload all these on your website for
>> general public awareness.
>>
>> Thanks in anticipation of favorable response.
>> Vineet Arora.
>>
>> On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 3:17 PM, Contact AAP <contact@aamaadmiparty.org>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Dear Mr. Arora,
>>>
>>> Thanks for writing in, we will forward your mail to our team which is
>>> still working to finalize our draft for mentioned issues, they will
>>> consider these suggestions actively.
>>>
>>> Warm Regards
>>> Vaibhav
>>> Team AAP
>>>
>>> Connect with us on Social Network:
>>> AAP National Page :- www.facebook.com/AamAadmiParty
>>> AAP website - http://aamaadmiparty.org/
>>> AAP twitter - https://twitter.com/@aamaadmiparty
>>> Party Help Line number: 09718500606 (9 A.M. to 9 P.M. - 7 days a week)
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 1:50 AM, Vineet Arora <vineet.aro.bgl@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> > Dear Sir/Madam
>>> >
>>> > Thanks for forwarding my suggestions to concerned people.
>>> > During one of the conversation with one of the AAP volunteer there came
>>> > a
>>> > discussion point that since cost of election is quite high so JanLokpal
>>> > being selected by people might not be appropriate as that would put
>>> > additional burden on people, but since Arvind Ji himself have said a
>>> > number
>>> > of times that power or satta would be given directly to people so I
>>> > assume
>>> > applying the same analogy to Janlokpal selection that it would be
>>> > possible
>>> > for people to directly elect their representative even Janlokpal.
>>> > One of the ways of realising above goal I was found, very directly
>>> > available
>>> > on internet:
>>> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transparent_Complaint_Procedure
>>> >
>>> > I am pretty sure there are much more efficient ways of realising above
>>> > goal
>>> > some of them would be even economical than this one.
>>> >
>>> > Benefitts I found is the cost of election/suggestion is directly taken
>>> > by
>>> > individual and not by government(which is later on put on people in form
>>> > of
>>> > excessive taxes) and so transparency in cost. The cost is very very
>>> > negligible and beniffits are abdundant and could lead in peoples' direct
>>> > participation in law making.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > 2) One other reform in Judiary I found that is already implemented in
>>> > many
>>> > advanced countries inluding US and UK is use of Jury system instead of
>>> > Judge
>>> > system for trial cases. How Jury system works, how to create Jury etc
>>> > are
>>> > given in lenghts on internet for sample following links could be used:
>>> > a) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/

Fwd: Re: I wish to know decision making process followed by AAP.

Dear sowmya 

Please go  via forwarded mail. It shows discontent with aap decision makers's responses after trying for 6 months. 

I have similar experience in last 2 years of trying to contact iac aap  anna and team's response to democratic demands. 

Please Dont assume our demands are silly or containing any deviating hidden agenda. 

 

Our demands are 

same ( even if asked by many different activists like siva, me, Vineet Arora , kmoksha and hundred of other activists as you can find in http://righttorecallmails.blogspot.com) ,

well documented, 

specific , 

transfer power to citizens  and 

simple to underadtand.

That's why my intention is for you as a individual indias well wisher,  to go via our simple 3 line law and to understand, ask openly if any doubts and to give your very respected 1/2 hour per week for distributing pamplets., while you continue your other work like AAP Activity.  

As usual the mail is    

publicly dispalyed in http://righttorecallmails.blogspot.com . l request you to  cc your response to righttorecall.rtr@gmail.com

to display your response publicly. 

Shiva  

-------- Original message --------
From: Vineet Arora <vineet.aro.bgl@gmail.com>
Date:
To: Contact AAP <contact@aamaadmiparty.org>
Cc: Mohit Prem Pundir <mohitprempundir@gmail.com>,Anil Kori <anilkoriiitd@gmail.com>,Bipul Dey <bipul.dey@gmail.com>,righttorecall.rtr@gmail.com,atuldubey89@gmail.com
Subject: Re: I wish to know decision making process followed by AAP.

Dear Decision Makers at AAP,

I would like to share my strong discontent with AAP. For past 6 months or more I am constantly following AAP on web pages, blogs, AAP people, their central contactable number etc. I have forwarded a number of suggestion for AAP to adopt democratic principles, measures most of those are shared in trailing emails. My belief in AAP got terribly shaken when I didn't founding any reply to any of the suggestions till yet other than `these are forwarded to the team`. I see all the decision making power is vested in a very very few selected hands where volunteers the main ground level workers have the only job to spread good word about AAP and nothing else non of their suggestions are taken seriously.

Except the name it doesn't seems anything else relates to Aam Aadmi or a common man in your authoritarian centralized set up.

Please let me know if my anguish, discontent isn't correct.

As I have already lost faith in decision makers of AAP, I wont be pushing them any further to take up democratic procedures.

In case you people feel otherwise and have any update on any of my suggestions feel free to call back, email, contact in any possible way. I assure you I would be most  welcome.  to hear from you but wont approach your party for updates.

Hoping one day you people realize the value of democratic principles.

Vineet Arora.

On Sun, Jun 9, 2013 at 1:10 PM, Vineet Arora <vineet.aro.bgl@gmail.com> wrote:

Dear/Sir Madam

A gentle reminder.

Kindly update.

Warm Regards

On Sat, Jun 8, 2013 at 11:56 AM, Vineet Arora <vineet.aro.bgl@gmail.com> wrote:

Dear/Sir Madam

A gentle reminder.

Kindly update.

Warm Regards

Vineet Arora.

On Thu, Jun 6, 2013 at 10:36 PM, Vineet Arora <vineet.aro.bgl@gmail.com> wrote:

Dear Sir / Madam

I hope everything is going good with you people. 

I called Bipul Ji to discuss on this but came to know of a tragedy in her family that some of his relatives got a heart stroke recently and had to be hospitalized.

I feel really bad and am very sorry to disturb Bipul Ji in such an hour of grief.

I hope the concerned person gets well very soon.

1) Just checking if the task of 'Gathering all the documented suggestions that have come up to AAP from general public ' can taken over by someone else or even I can come to office with some of my collegues to gather the information. Just don't wish to bother Bipul Ji for anything now. In case it can only be done by Bipul Ji I would request him to  do it whenever appropriate taking his family commitments on priority.

Just request you to update me in any of the cases.

2) There are other suggestions that I have sent to AAP which are there in preceeding emails. Thanks for forwarding those to the concerned people I would like to know the status of the same, 

a) Have those been discarded outrightly 

b) Fully accepted

c) Partially accepted, in that case what all is accepted

d) Still pending discussion, in that case when could I expect any update.

e) Any other relevant information that could be shared.

3) Apart from the above I would like to know if there is anything that I could do to help Bipul Ji during such an hour of difficulty. Kindly do let me know I would be more than willing to help one of our brother in need, based on my capacity and abality.

Warm Regards

Vineet Arora.

On Sun, Jun 2, 2013 at 1:45 AM, Vineet Arora <vineet.aro.bgl@gmail.com> wrote:

Thanks you I will get in touch with him.

On Sat, Jun 1, 2013 at 10:32 PM, Contact AAP <contact@aamaadmiparty.org> wrote:

Hi Vineet Ji,

Please call Mr. Bipul on 09350103687 between 10 to 6 PM to discuss the issue.

Warm Regards
Vaibhav
Team AAP

On May 31, 2013 11:09 AM, "Vineet Arora" <vineet.aro.bgl@gmail.com> wrote:

I would like to thank you for your timely response. Kindly forward me Bipul Jis contact number so that we could coordinate and find timings that would suite booth of us.


Warm Regards
Vineet.

On Wednesday, May 29, 2013, Contact AAP <contact@aamaadmiparty.org> wrote:
> Dear Vineet,
>
> Please come to office & discuss all this to Mr. Bipul Dey.
>
> Warm Regards
> Vaibhav
> Team AAP
>
> Connect with us on Social Network:
> AAP National Page :- www.facebook.com/AamAadmiParty
> AAP website - http://aamaadmiparty.org/
> AAP twitter - https://twitter.com/@aamaadmiparty
> Party Help Line number: 09718500606 (9 A.M. to 9 P.M. - 7 days a week)
>
>
> On Wed, May 29, 2013 at 12:45 AM, Vineet Arora <vineet.aro.bgl@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Dear Sir/Madam
>>
>> Thanks for forwarding my suggestions/emails to concerned people/department.
>> I would like to have/know all the documented suggestions that have come up
>> to AAP from general public. If they are via post/email/inland or any other
>> means.
>>
>> If emails please forward, If inland letters etc I can come to your office
>> and collect the print-out/ photostat paying appropriate cost. Any other
>> suggestion from your side where you could provide me that info are most
>> welcome.
>>
>> I would like to collate all these documents/proofs for future reference as a
>> process of building/strengthening a democracy, probably would get these
>> published in form of a book.
>>
>> I hope you would find this quite valid in implementing complete
>> transparency. Would request you to upload all these on your website for
>> general public awareness.
>>
>> Thanks in anticipation of favorable response.
>> Vineet Arora.
>>
>> On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 3:17 PM, Contact AAP <contact@aamaadmiparty.org>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Dear Mr. Arora,
>>>
>>> Thanks for writing in, we will forward your mail to our team which is
>>> still working to finalize our draft for mentioned issues, they will
>>> consider these suggestions actively.
>>>
>>> Warm Regards
>>> Vaibhav
>>> Team AAP
>>>
>>> Connect with us on Social Network:
>>> AAP National Page :- www.facebook.com/AamAadmiParty
>>> AAP website - http://aamaadmiparty.org/
>>> AAP twitter - https://twitter.com/@aamaadmiparty
>>> Party Help Line number: 09718500606 (9 A.M. to 9 P.M. - 7 days a week)
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 1:50 AM, Vineet Arora <vineet.aro.bgl@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> > Dear Sir/Madam
>>> >
>>> > Thanks for forwarding my suggestions to concerned people.
>>> > During one of the conversation with one of the AAP volunteer there came
>>> > a
>>> > discussion point that since cost of election is quite high so JanLokpal
>>> > being selected by people might not be appropriate as that would put
>>> > additional burden on people, but since Arvind Ji himself have said a
>>> > number
>>> > of times that power or satta would be given directly to people so I
>>> > assume
>>> > applying the same analogy to Janlokpal selection that it would be
>>> > possible
>>> > for people to directly elect their representative even Janlokpal.
>>> > One of the ways of realising above goal I was found, very directly
>>> > available
>>> > on internet:
>>> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transparent_Complaint_Procedure
>>> >
>>> > I am pretty sure there are much more efficient ways of realising above
>>> > goal
>>> > some of them would be even economical than this one.
>>> >
>>> > Benefitts I found is the cost of election/suggestion is directly taken
>>> > by
>>> > individual and not by government(which is later on put on people in form
>>> > of
>>> > excessive taxes) and so transparency in cost. The cost is very very
>>> > negligible and beniffits are abdundant and could lead in peoples' direct
>>> > participation in law making.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > 2) One other reform in Judiary I found that is already implemented in
>>> > many
>>> > advanced countries inluding US and UK is use of Jury system instead of
>>> > Judge
>>> > system for trial cases. How Jury system works, how to create Jury etc
>>> > are
>>> > given in lenghts on internet for sample following links could be used:
>>> > a) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/

Re: I wish to know decision making process followed by AAP.

Dear Decision Makers at AAP,

I would like to share my strong discontent with AAP. For past 6 months or more I am constantly following AAP on web pages, blogs, AAP people, their central contactable number etc. I have forwarded a number of suggestion for AAP to adopt democratic principles, measures most of those are shared in trailing emails. My belief in AAP got terribly shaken when I didn't founding any reply to any of the suggestions till yet other than `these are forwarded to the team`. I see all the decision making power is vested in a very very few selected hands where volunteers the main ground level workers have the only job to spread good word about AAP and nothing else non of their suggestions are taken seriously.

Except the name it doesn't seems anything else relates to Aam Aadmi or a common man in your authoritarian centralized set up.

Please let me know if my anguish, discontent isn't correct.

As I have already lost faith in decision makers of AAP, I wont be pushing them any further to take up democratic procedures.

In case you people feel otherwise and have any update on any of my suggestions feel free to call back, email, contact in any possible way. I assure you I would be most willing to hear from you but wont approach your party for updates.

Hoping one day you people realize the value of democratic principles.

Vineet Arora.

On Sun, Jun 9, 2013 at 1:10 PM, Vineet Arora <vineet.aro.bgl@gmail.com> wrote:

Dear/Sir Madam

A gentle reminder.

Kindly update.

Warm Regards

On Sat, Jun 8, 2013 at 11:56 AM, Vineet Arora <vineet.aro.bgl@gmail.com> wrote:

Dear/Sir Madam

A gentle reminder.

Kindly update.

Warm Regards

Vineet Arora.

On Thu, Jun 6, 2013 at 10:36 PM, Vineet Arora <vineet.aro.bgl@gmail.com> wrote:

Dear Sir / Madam

I hope everything is going good with you people. 

I called Bipul Ji to discuss on this but came to know of a tragedy in her family that some of his relatives got a heart stroke recently and had to be hospitalized.

I feel really bad and am very sorry to disturb Bipul Ji in such an hour of grief.

I hope the concerned person gets well very soon.

1) Just checking if the task of 'Gathering all the documented suggestions that have come up to AAP from general public ' can taken over by someone else or even I can come to office with some of my collegues to gather the information. Just don't wish to bother Bipul Ji for anything now. In case it can only be done by Bipul Ji I would request him to  do it whenever appropriate taking his family commitments on priority.

Just request you to update me in any of the cases.

2) There are other suggestions that I have sent to AAP which are there in preceeding emails. Thanks for forwarding those to the concerned people I would like to know the status of the same, 

a) Have those been discarded outrightly 

b) Fully accepted

c) Partially accepted, in that case what all is accepted

d) Still pending discussion, in that case when could I expect any update.

e) Any other relevant information that could be shared.

3) Apart from the above I would like to know if there is anything that I could do to help Bipul Ji during such an hour of difficulty. Kindly do let me know I would be more than willing to help one of our brother in need, based on my capacity and abality.

Warm Regards

Vineet Arora.

On Sun, Jun 2, 2013 at 1:45 AM, Vineet Arora <vineet.aro.bgl@gmail.com> wrote:

Thanks you I will get in touch with him.

On Sat, Jun 1, 2013 at 10:32 PM, Contact AAP <contact@aamaadmiparty.org> wrote:

Hi Vineet Ji,

Please call Mr. Bipul on 09350103687 between 10 to 6 PM to discuss the issue.

Warm Regards
Vaibhav
Team AAP

On May 31, 2013 11:09 AM, "Vineet Arora" <vineet.aro.bgl@gmail.com> wrote:

I would like to thank you for your timely response. Kindly forward me Bipul Jis contact number so that we could coordinate and find timings that would suite booth of us.


Warm Regards
Vineet.

On Wednesday, May 29, 2013, Contact AAP <contact@aamaadmiparty.org> wrote:
> Dear Vineet,
>
> Please come to office & discuss all this to Mr. Bipul Dey.
>
> Warm Regards
> Vaibhav
> Team AAP
>
> Connect with us on Social Network:
> AAP National Page :- www.facebook.com/AamAadmiParty
> AAP website - http://aamaadmiparty.org/
> AAP twitter - https://twitter.com/@aamaadmiparty
> Party Help Line number: 09718500606 (9 A.M. to 9 P.M. - 7 days a week)
>
>
> On Wed, May 29, 2013 at 12:45 AM, Vineet Arora <vineet.aro.bgl@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Dear Sir/Madam
>>
>> Thanks for forwarding my suggestions/emails to concerned people/department.
>> I would like to have/know all the documented suggestions that have come up
>> to AAP from general public. If they are via post/email/inland or any other
>> means.
>>
>> If emails please forward, If inland letters etc I can come to your office
>> and collect the print-out/ photostat paying appropriate cost. Any other
>> suggestion from your side where you could provide me that info are most
>> welcome.
>>
>> I would like to collate all these documents/proofs for future reference as a
>> process of building/strengthening a democracy, probably would get these
>> published in form of a book.
>>
>> I hope you would find this quite valid in implementing complete
>> transparency. Would request you to upload all these on your website for
>> general public awareness.
>>
>> Thanks in anticipation of favorable response.
>> Vineet Arora.
>>
>> On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 3:17 PM, Contact AAP <contact@aamaadmiparty.org>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Dear Mr. Arora,
>>>
>>> Thanks for writing in, we will forward your mail to our team which is
>>> still working to finalize our draft for mentioned issues, they will
>>> consider these suggestions actively.
>>>
>>> Warm Regards
>>> Vaibhav
>>> Team AAP
>>>
>>> Connect with us on Social Network:
>>> AAP National Page :- www.facebook.com/AamAadmiParty
>>> AAP website - http://aamaadmiparty.org/
>>> AAP twitter - https://twitter.com/@aamaadmiparty
>>> Party Help Line number: 09718500606 (9 A.M. to 9 P.M. - 7 days a week)
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 1:50 AM, Vineet Arora <vineet.aro.bgl@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> > Dear Sir/Madam
>>> >
>>> > Thanks for forwarding my suggestions to concerned people.
>>> > During one of the conversation with one of the AAP volunteer there came
>>> > a
>>> > discussion point that since cost of election is quite high so JanLokpal
>>> > being selected by people might not be appropriate as that would put
>>> > additional burden on people, but since Arvind Ji himself have said a
>>> > number
>>> > of times that power or satta would be given directly to people so I
>>> > assume
>>> > applying the same analogy to Janlokpal selection that it would be
>>> > possible
>>> > for people to directly elect their representative even Janlokpal.
>>> > One of the ways of realising above goal I was found, very directly
>>> > available
>>> > on internet:
>>> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transparent_Complaint_Procedure
>>> >
>>> > I am pretty sure there are much more efficient ways of realising above
>>> > goal
>>> > some of them would be even economical than this one.
>>> >
>>> > Benefitts I found is the cost of election/suggestion is directly taken
>>> > by
>>> > individual and not by government(which is later on put on people in form
>>> > of
>>> > excessive taxes) and so transparency in cost. The cost is very very
>>> > negligible and beniffits are abdundant and could lead in peoples' direct
>>> > participation in law making.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > 2) One other reform in Judiary I found that is already implemented in
>>> > many
>>> > advanced countries inluding US and UK is use of Jury system instead of
>>> > Judge
>>> > system for trial cases. How Jury system works, how to create Jury etc
>>> > are
>>> > given in lenghts on internet for sample following links could be used:
>>> > a) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/

Discussion with AAP members wnd and request to support TOG / TCP.

Dear nagaraj.

Great job. Quick response! Weldone. 

 

Thanks for your initiative. 

Because it was a phone conversation probably I have misconveyed few bits within the talk.

Let me correct them.

1. I am not exactly from london .but I live around 200 km from London in the same country UK.

2. Right to recall group membership is 17000.

3.i have not conveyed you that rtr group will support AAP. 

But I could tell you my personal opinion on this subject. 

my personal opinion is that  rtr  group may support aap if AAP fulfils these criterias. Don't take these as representing argument or unnecessary pride of rtr group members. But see how these steps will transfer the power to public and stop ALL CORRUPTION. 

 1.janlokpal bill should add *right to recall janlokpal apex member by citizens directly draft* as mentioned in 

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right_to_Recall

Or 

Www.righttorecall.info/301.pdf or ( either you can copy the same or prepare even better and display ) 

2.AAP should display, PROMOTE right to recall draft. http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right_to_Recall

(This second point is for any political party which fan gain rtr group support. )

 

If you do above, I assure most of rtr members will be happy to support AAP. 

4. the phone number you mentioned is wrong. I do not like to display my phone number in public for security reasons.  But any of you., like to discuss or clarify just email me.  I will provide my phone number I. Private mail. 

Again , thanks for reading and analysing our draft. 

I have publicly displayed this message by cc emailing to righttorecall.rtr@gmail.com

 in http://righttorecallmails.blogspot.com . 

i request you to also cc your response and acknolwledgement to righttorecall.rtr@gmail.com

So that your response is also publicly displayed automatically.  

vande matharam 

shiva

-------- Original message --------
From: Nagaraj Kalkutagar <kalkutagar@gmail.com>
Date:
To: siddharth sharma <siddharthgpf@gmail.com>,AAP Karnataka <aap.karnataka@gmail.com>,PRITHVI REDDY <prithvi2802@gmail.com>
Cc: Shiva Thippaiah <mail2shiva123@gmail.com>,Vijay Sharma <vijureal@gmail.com>
Subject: Fwd:

Dear sir,

Here I have forwarded mail from Shiva Thippaiah  from London. he discussed  about right to recall and attached similar kind of law related facts.

we discussed that , they have 1700 thousands members across India and would like express support to AAP.

And also asked me aap also support with them in implementing rich kind of LAW.

Personally, I have gone through the document and certain facts could be included in right to Recall law.

Thank you

Nagaraj.K

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Shiva Thippaiah <mail2shiva123@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 3:28 PM
Subject:
To: kalkutagar@gmail.com

dear  nagaraj 

the law we discussed on phone 

www.righttorecall.info/001el.pdf 

you tube videos of the law and explanation for you to grasp the core quickly

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OZKwL6wI9uc&feature=share&list=PL4B1A324F3ED866E2

please see evidence of me distributing pamplets and request you to do the same. it takes only 1/2 hour per week.

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jlZpgCF_w1Y

 

http://youtu.be/bOiSk5A5ArA?t=4m38s

 

vande matharam 

 

shiva