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Sunday, 14 July 2013

Janlokpal ki kamiyan aur kuch sujhaav

कृपया ये लिंक डाउनलोड करें और दूसरों को बताएं ताकि हमारी देश को भ्रष्ट लोकपाल , प्रधानमंत्री, जज, अधिकारी नुकसान नहीं पहुंचा सके और देश को बेच नहीं सके और अपने वाल के नोट, ब्लॉग आदि पर भी डालें ताकि ज्यादा से ज्यादा लोग देख सकें और पढ़ सकें -

राईट टू रिकाल-लोकपाल-

डाउनलोड लिंक -
www.righttorecall.info/406.pdf

ऑनलाइन लिंक -

www.righttorecall.info/406.htm

संक्षिप्त में राईट टू रिकाल के ड्राफ्ट-

डाउनलोड लिंक -

www.righttorecall.info/011.h.pdf

ऑनलाइन लिंक -

www.righttorecall.info/011.h.htm

अक्सर पूछे जाने वाले प्रश्न-

डाउनलोड लिंक -
www.righttorecall.info/004.h.pdf

ऑनलाइन लिंक -

www.righttorecall.info/004.h.htm

प्रश्नोत्तरी पर विडियो हिंदी में -

http://www.youtube.com/user/TCPHindiFAQs

विस्तार में `राईट टू रिकाल समूह` के प्रस्तावित ड्राफ्ट-

www.righttorecall.info/301.h.pdf

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काला धन भारत वापस लाने के लिए क़ानून-ड्राफ्ट -

डाउनलोड लिंक -

www.righttorecall.info/bm.h.pdf

ऑनलाइन लिंक -

http://tiny.cc/cqe6iw

ये कानून-ड्राफ्ट नेताओं/बुद्धिजीवियों को भी लिख कर या ट्विट्टर पर बताएं और righttorecall.rtr@gmail.com पर उनके जवाब या ख़ामोशी की कापी फॉरवर्ड करें |

Janlokpal ki kamiyan aur kuch sujhaav

डाउनलोड लिंक -
www.righttorecall.info/406.pdf

ऑनलाइन लिंक -

www.righttorecall.info/406.htm

संक्षिप्त में राईट टू रिकाल के ड्राफ्ट-

डाउनलोड लिंक -

www.righttorecall.info/011.h.pdf

ऑनलाइन लिंक -

www.righttorecall.info/011.h.htm

अक्सर पूछे जाने वाले प्रश्न-

डाउनलोड लिंक -
www.righttorecall.info/004.h.pdf

ऑनलाइन लिंक -

www.righttorecall.info/004.h.htm

प्रश्नोत्तरी पर विडियो हिंदी में -

http://www.youtube.com/user/TCPHindiFAQs

विस्तार में `राईट टू रिकाल समूह` के प्रस्तावित ड्राफ्ट-

www.righttorecall.info/301.h.pdf

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काला धन भारत वापस लाने के लिए क़ानून-ड्राफ्ट -

डाउनलोड लिंक -

www.righttorecall.info/bm.h.pdf

ऑनलाइन लिंक -

http://tiny.cc/cqe6iw

Right to Recall Lokpal

Dear All,

Please support for right to recall without any political issue its only for nation building.

for more detail. read this link,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

https://www.facebook.com/groups/358200090859866/?ref=ts&fref=ts

Thanks and Regards:-

Jitendra Kumar Shukla
Mo. No. +919650987361

Fwd: गौ हत्या के विरोध में

Thanks and Regards:-

जनसेवक भारत ,

मैं जितेन्द्र कुमार शुक्ल वोटर आई. डी. कार्ड न. प्रतापगढ़ AJS0202283 तुमको आदेश देता हू की गौहत्या के विरोध में संसद में प्रस्ताव पारित कर सख्त नियम बनाये

Thanks and Regards:-

जितेन्द्र कुमार शुक्ल

रिकालिस्टस गुप्र
Mo. No. +919457579670

Saturday, 13 July 2013

Fwd: Mails sent to Arvind Kejriwal and IAC 1

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Vikas Goyal <vikasrattangoyal@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, Aug 29, 2012 at 11:59 PM
Subject: Re: Mails sent to Arvind Kejriwal and IAC 1
To: kmoksha rishi <kmoksha@gmail.com>

Dear Kmoksha ji,

I will read these mails and make a thought about it and once I get a chance I will have a word with Arvind ji and give you updates.

However do not expect any answer any time soon atleast unless I come back to India.

regards

vRG

On Wed, Aug 29, 2012 at 11:31 PM, kmoksha rishi <kmoksha@gmail.com> wrote:

Vikas bhai,

As you had requested to see mails which I and others sent to others , I am forwarding those to you. There will come 2-3 more mails with same title.

In this mail , I am giving links of posts we put on lokpalconsultation.org and also ad we gave on TCP / lokpal on april 28,2011 addressed to Anna ji and IAC.

(1) Rahul Chimanbhai Mehta Says:

# A247LB April 23rd, 2011 at 11:34 pm

Pls add about 3 + 9 clauses in JLD

1. Transparent Complaint Filing Procedure - 3 clauses

2. Right to Recall Lokpal - 9 clauses

Both are explained in the PDF with exact draft
http://www.lokpalbillconsultation.org/search_comments.php?searchqry=Rahul+Chimanbhai+Mehta&button_search.x=15&button_search.y=16

(2). Janta Mat Says:

# A734LB April 24th, 2011 at 10:52 pm

The three shortcomings are

1. Citizens have no Right to Recall Lokpal(Chairperson or member) if Lokpal(consisting of chairperson and 10 members) is corrupt has
nexus with corrupt SC-Cj

2. Citizens have no Right to Retain Lokpal, Lokpal is honest but SC-Cj
is corrupt and dismisses honest Lokpal

3. Lokpal can ignore complaint even if complaint is coming from crores

of citizens who have no access to media

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The first two shortcomings are that NO Right to Recall Lokpal
provision for citizens. Only Supreme Court Chief judge can select and remove (see sections 6,7 of proposed LokPal bill) Lokpal. How non-corrupt are Supreme Court Chief judges? Eminent Lawyer
Shanti Bhushan says that half of the past 16 SC-Cjs were corrupt !!!
In addition, nepotism and deliberate in-actions on large issues has
become common.
http://www.barandbench.com/brief/2/997/8-out-of-16-cji-from-1990-have-been-corrupt-says-shanti-bhushan-prashant-bhushan-to-file-his-affidavit-tomorrow

In this circumstances, it possible that

a. Corrupt SC-Cj would blackmail an honest Lokpal. Lokpal's
independence is compromised

b. Corrupt Lokpal and corrupt SC-Cj would form nexuses and assist each
other in many ways.

Also, an assumption that Lokpal will never become corrupt, or that
Lokpal-SCCj will not form a nexus is something I would like to dismiss
outrightly. Lokpal can become corrupt and may form nexus with SC-Cj in
which case Right to Recall Lokpal becomes MUST. And Lokpal and SC-Cj
may get both purchased by MNCs, in which case MNCs will end up having
complete control over Indian Administration, Ministries and Courts. So
we must have Right to Recall Lokpal. RTR Lokpal is also supported by
writings of Satyarth Prakash which page-1 of chap-6 says that "Raajaa
(Raajvarg) must be Prajaa-aadheen or else he will rob citizens the way
carnivorous animals kill small animals, and thus such a Raajaa will
ruin the nation". Same way, Lokpal must be Prajaa-aadheen. Or else, he
will rob the citizens and ruin the nation. In case Right to Recall
Lokpal Chairman is too much for others to accept, then IMO, we should
settle for Right to Recall any one member, called as Citizen's Member
in Lokpal.

The third shortcoming is that it may happen that Lokpal gives no
hearing to a big complaint that matters to crores of people who dont
have access to wealthy lawyers and media. Lokpal can simply delay
action on that complaint by calling it small and "too few people want
action on it". We must have a mechanism that would at least ensure
that Lokpal can dismiss complaints that matter to crores of commons
who have no access to media.

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Proposed additions to JanLokpal Draft
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We propose adding following two sections in JanLokpal draft

Section - CV : Citizens Voice
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Clause CV.1 : If a citizen comes to District Collector's office with
an affidavit containing complain, then after verification of identity,
Collector or Executive Magistrate he has appointed will put the
complaint on the website of Lokpal.

Clause CV.2 : Any citizen can register YES-NO on a complaint filed in
clause-1 by paying Rs 3 at Patwari (Talati) office after showing voter
card and Talati will add the YES-NO on the Lokpal's website along with
name and voter-number of the citizen.

This will ensure that if the JanLokpal is ignoring complaint of crores of
citizens, he will get exposed. And the fact that he can get exposed,
he will not dare to ignore complaints of crores.
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Right to Recall Lokpal
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Section - RTRLC : Right to Recall Lokpal Chairperson

clause-1 [General Declaration] . The word citizen would mean a
registered voter.

clause-2 [Procedure for Collector] If a citizen of India above 30
years wishes to be LokPal, he can appear before Collector. Collector would
issue a serial number for a filing fee same as deposit amount for MP
election.

clause-3 [Procedure for Talati , Patwari (or Talati's Clerks)] If a
citizen comes in person to Talati's office, pays Rs 3 fee , and
approves at most five persons for the Lokpal Chairperson position, the
Talati would enter his approvals in the computer and would him a
receipt with his voter-id#, date/time and the persons he approved. The
fee shall be Rs 1 for those with BPL card. If a the citizen comes to
cancel his Approvals, the Talati will cancel one of more of his
approvals without any fee.

clause-4 [Procedure for Talati , Patwari (or Talati's Clerks)] The
Talati will put the preferences of the citizen on Lokpal's website
with citizen's voter-ID number and his preferences.

clause-5 [Procedure for Secretary of Lokpal] On every Monday, the
Secretary will publish Approval counts for each candidate.

clause-6 [Procedure for Lokpal] If any candidate has obtained more
than 38 crore approvals and is 1 crore more than approvals obtained by
existing Lokpal, then Lokpal may resign and may request PM to appoint
the most approved candidate as Lokpal.

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The Right to Recall Lokpal clauses can be also used to retain a
Lokpal, if Lokpal is honest and a dishonest SC-Cj removes him. In such
case, citizens can file approval for that honest ex-Lokpal and make
him Lokpal again.

And I will repeat, in case Right to Recall Lokpal Chairman is too much
for others to accept, then IMO, we should settle for Right to Recall
any one member, called as Citizen's Member in Lokpal
http://www.lokpalbillconsultation.org/search_comments.php?searchqry=Janta+Mat&button_search.x=20&button_search.y=14

(3) Prashant K. Vakharia Says:

# A1177LB April 28th, 2011 at 5:39 pm

I strongly demand right to recall and transparent complaint filling procedure in proposed Lokpal Bill. I supported you when you were on fast and in the same way today I support Rahul Mehta for Right To Recall and Transparent complaint filling procedure.

He has given advertisement in 28th April 2011 in Indian Express on his agenda.

He has also posted his
demand here in this website and token receipt no. is #A247LB AND I fully agree with him.
http://www.lokpalbillconsultation.org/search_comments.php?searchqry=Prashant+K.+Vakharia+&button_search.x=19&button_search.y=16

(4) Indian Express ad of April 28,2011 requesting Anna ji to add RTR-lokpal and Transparent complaint / Proposal procedure clauses to Janlokpal-
See attachment

(5) Posts on IAC page, which were deleted-
http://www.facebook.com/groups/rrgindia/doc/181129255269857/

Many people wrote to Arvind Kejriwal , IAC but we did not collect all mails . Rest I will forward those mails which I and others sent to Arvind Kejriwal and Kiran Bedi.

Kashyap.
On Sun, Aug 26, 2012 at 2:37 PM, Vikas Goyal <vikasrattangoyal@gmail.com> wrote:

Thanks kmoksha,

can u please also provide documents on current RTR process as in USA and link to video taps of that swiss multimillonaire

regard
vrg

On Sun, Aug 26, 2012 at 2:27 PM, kmoksha rishi <kmoksha@gmail.com> wrote:
Hello,

Sending you in attachment files regarding RTR-lokpal and Transparent complaint Procedure. Please study them and give your views.

Kashyap.

On Sun, Aug 26, 2012 at 3:28 AM, Vikas Goyal <vikasrattangoyal@gmail.com> wrote:

Regards,
Vikas Rattan Goyal
One life , live to fullest

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Regards,
Vikas Rattan Goyal
Pune

One life , live to fullest

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Regards,
Vikas Rattan Goyal
Pune
One life , live to fullest

Fwd: Mails sent to Arvind Kejriwal and IAC 4

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: kmoksha rishi <kmoksha@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, Aug 29, 2012 at 11:39 PM
Subject: Mails sent to Arvind Kejriwal and IAC 4
To: Vikas Goyal <vikasrattangoyal@gmail.com>

This mail I received from BST people. I do not know the writer of the mail. This is the last mail I am sending you of 4 mails sent regarding the e-mail communication with Arvind Kejriwal. My mails and the comments on lokpalconsultation.org site got no response. This mail at first got a response on issue of transaltion into hindi etc and no response on draft proposals but afterwards, there was silence from Arvind ji as you can see in the chain of mails.

Kashyap.

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: kmoksha rishi <kmoksha@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, Aug 29, 2012 at 3:31 PM
Subject: Re: Fw: Re: Re: Arvind ji LokPal Bill ko hindi mein banayein Aur Right to recall LokPal kalamein daalein
To: Right to Recall Mails <righttorecall.rtr@gmail.com>

On Wed, Aug 29, 2012 at 2:43 PM, bharat <anilmittal325@rediffmail.com> wrote:

Note: Forwarded message attached

-- Original Message --

From: "bharat "anilmittal325@rediffmail.com
To:
parivartanindia@gmail.com,kiranbedioffice@gmail.com,bharatswabhimantrust@googlegroup
s.com
Cc: indiaagainstcorruption.2010@gmail.com,info@indiaagainstcorruption.org
Subject: Re: Re: Arvind ji LokPal Bill ko hindi mein banayein Aur Right to recall
LokPal kalamein daalein

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---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: "bharat "<anilmittal325@rediffmail.com>
To: <parivartanindia@gmail.com>,<kiranbedioffice@gmail.com>,<bharatswabhimantrust@googlegroups.com>
Cc: <indiaagainstcorruption.2010@gmail.com>,<info@indiaagainstcorruption.org>
Date:
Subject: Re: Re: Arvind ji LokPal Bill ko hindi mein banayein Aur Right to recall LokPal kalamein daalein
Arvind ji,
Hindi translation ke liye hamein kuch log milgaye hain.
Lok Pal Bill ke section 7 ke anusaar Supreme Court judge kisi bhrasht Lokpal adhyaksh ya members ko nikaal sakta hai. Lekin Supreme Court ke judge bhi bhrasht ho sakta hai ya Lokpal ke saath mila ho sakta hai.
Abhi adhiktar judge corrupt hote hain ya netaon ke saath mile hue hote hain, isiliye nyay nahi milta.

Jo right to recall ke clause hamne prastaav kiye hain ,usmein Lokpal adhyaksh ko nikaalne ki satta logon ke paas hai.

Jab tak satta kuch hi vyaktiyon ke paas hogi, tab tak bhrashtachar nahi mitega. Satta har jan ke paas honi chahiye.

Right to recall Lokpal Adhyaksh ya prajaa adhin Lokpal Adhyaksh
kripya attachment mein dekh sakte hain
ya is link se bhi download kar sakte hain-
https://docs.google.com/leaf?id=0Bw5IEnkfH2GUOTQ5NTJkOTctZmRlMS00OTFjLWE5YjktZmMzZDM3ZDE2MDJj&hl=en

Dhanyawaad

Anil Mittal

On Fri, 24 Dec 2010 12:51:50 +0530 wrote
>Aapka vichar bahut sundar hai. Kya aap is bill ka hindi mein translation kar sakte hain? Yeh bahut zaroori hai. Aur kanoon mein lokpal ko hatane ki prakriya already hai.
>
>Thnx
>
>Arvind kejriwal
>From: "bharat "
Date: 24 Dec 2010 07:15:54 -0000To: Cc: ; ; ; Subject: Arvind ji LokPal Bill ko hindi mein banayein Aur Right to recall LokPal kalamein daalein
>Bhaiyon,
>

>
Jaise aap ko maaloom hai ki LokPal bill Arvind Kejrival ji dwara prastavit hai bhrashtachar ke virudh.
>
Lekin ye bill hindi mein nahi banaya gaya.
>
Jisse ye jansamuh is ko pad bhi nahi payenge samajhne ki baat to dur hai aur apne vichaar nahi de payenge
>
Doosra ismein Lokpal adhyaksh ko hatane ka koi praavdhan nahi hai jisse
>
Lokpal bhrasht ho sakta hai.
>

>
Isiliye Arvind kejrival ji ko bhinti karein hindi mein LokPal Banane ke liye aur Right to recall Lokpal adhyaksh kalmein daalne ke liye,
>
unko 9868069953 par sms karke ya Manish Sisodia ko sms karke 9718255455 par.
>

>
Right to recall LokPal bill in links par dekh evam download kar sakte hain-
>

>
Hindi-
>
https://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&pid=explorer&chrome=true&srcid=0Bw5IEnkfH2GUOTQ5NTJkOTctZmRlMS00OTFjLWE5YjktZmMzZDM3ZDE2MDJj&hl=en
>
English-
>
https://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&pid=explorer&chrome=true&srcid=0Bw5IEnkfH2GUMDU2NjQwOGEtZGRiYi00YWMxLTgxNTMtYzY3OWY2NzU4NmU1&hl=en
>

>
Om
>
Jai Hind.
>
Jai Bharat.

Fwd: Mails sent to Arvind Kejriwal and IAC 3

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: kmoksha rishi <kmoksha@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, Aug 29, 2012 at 11:34 PM
Subject: Mails sent to Arvind Kejriwal and IAC 3
To: Vikas Goyal <vikasrattangoyal@gmail.com>

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: kmoksha rishi <kmoksha@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, Aug 29, 2012 at 4:32 PM
Subject: Fwd: Fw: Questions and Suggestions re Model Nagar Raj Bill
To: righttorecall.rtr@gmail.com

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: kmoksha <kmoksha@rediffmail.com>
Date: Wed, Aug 29, 2012 at 4:27 PM
Subject: Fw: Questions and Suggestions re Model Nagar Raj Bill
To: righttorecall.rtr@gmail.com
Cc: kmoksha@gmail.com

Note: Forwarded message attached

-- Original Message --

From: "kmoksha"kmoksha@rediffmail.com
To: "parivartanindia"parivartanindia@gmail.com
Subject: Questions and Suggestions re Model Nagar Raj Bill

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Subject: Questions and Suggestions re Model Nagar Raj Bill
Date: Sun, 21 Nov 2010 16:50:27 IST
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Arvind ji,

With reference to my mail dated 19 Nov 2010, would like to make the following queries and
suggestions-

1)What is the number of people which will be in a mohalla and how many people will gather in a
mohalla sabha?

2)After reading the proposed Bill, we feel the following clauses should be added-

Section-CV : Citizens' voice

CV.1
If any poor, dalit, woman, senior citizen or any citizen wants a change in
this law, he may submit an affidavit at DC's office and DC or his clerk
will post the affidavit on the website of Prime Minister for a fee of Rs
20/- per page.
CV.2
If poor, dalit, woman, senior citizen or any citizen want to register his
opposition to this law or any section or wants to register YES-NO to any
affidavit submitted in above clause, and he comes to Talati's office with
voter-ID and pays Rs 3 fee, Talati will enter YES/NO and give him a
receipt. The YES-NO will be posted on the website of the Prime
Minister.
The Section-CV described above only enable to citizens to notice the voice against the
proposed law if there is such a voice.
3) Please also tell if you propose to introduce the Power to recall National information
comissioner?
Kashyap

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---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: "kmoksha"<kmoksha@rediffmail.com>
To: "parivartanindia"<parivartanindia@gmail.com>

Cc:
Date:
Subject: Questions and Suggestions re Model Nagar Raj Bill

Arvind ji,

With reference to my mail dated 19 Nov 2010, would like to make the following queries and suggestions-

1)What is the number of people which will be in a mohalla and how many people will gather in a mohalla sabha?

2)After reading the proposed Bill, we feel the following clauses should be added-
Section-CV : Citizens' voice
CV.1
        If any poor, dalit, woman, senior citizen or any citizen wants a change in
        this law, he may submit an affidavit at DC's office and DC or his clerk
        will post the affidavit on the website of Prime Minister for a fee of Rs
        20/- per page.
CV.2
        If poor, dalit, woman, senior citizen or any citizen want to register his
        opposition to this law or any section or wants to register YES-NO to any
        affidavit submitted in above clause, and he comes to Talati's office with
        voter-ID and pays Rs 3 fee, Talati will enter YES/NO and give him a
        receipt. The YES-NO will be posted on the website of the Prime
        Minister.
The Section-CV described above only enable to citizens to notice the voice against the
proposed law if there is such a voice.
3) Please also tell if you propose to introduce the Power to recall National information comissioner?

Kashyap